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this is this morning - to the mysterious

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energy which makes up the aura and I'll

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be talking about that some you also

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talked about the Kundalini in my first

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book I proposed the idea that it does

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involve a synchronization of the chakras

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and I heard some support for that in the

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speaker this morning what I'm going to

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talk about here is the mysterious idea

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of how does long range healing work

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whether this connection that in months

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was talking about how are we able to

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connect with others very far away

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seemingly independent of distance

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doesn't seem to take a whole lot of

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energy or anything else that happens

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pretty easily once we were able to

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couple in so while how can we explain

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that well let's back up a little bit

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first there are other areas of physics

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where also we have puzzles which of

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course is one of the purposes of this

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society one area involves gravity the

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nature of space-time metric you've heard

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talks about that here dark matter and

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dark energy these are certainly

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important areas for physics to puzzle

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out there are examples that have not yet

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been fixed as far as I'm aware are in

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conventional physics we're doing solar

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surprising angles of work of la Saxo etc

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so there are these areas that suggest

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that our present physics is not complete

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satellite orbits depart from prediction

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Lagos pioneer Ulysses people are

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referred to that earlier in this session

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charge clusters another area where is

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well well demonstrated that at very high

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concentrations of charge the Coulomb

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repulsion that should be there seems to

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stop working which is presumably a zero

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point phenomenon but is one more clue

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that our understanding of things of

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space-time and the metric and things at

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very small scales and under extreme

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is not well-understood proponent and

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eurya have done these demonstrations

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that the vacuum itself can have non

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ground state conditions there's not just

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one ground state of the vacuum where

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everything is empty

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in fact by shining a laser at a

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container of DNA and then pulling out

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everything so there's no traces of

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anything left there's an energetic

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contaminant that remains that has

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periodicity to with is shown by the

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lower graph so basically they're

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creating excited states of the vacuum

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which sound a little bit like prana or

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some of the other up hypothesized

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aspects of subtle energy so these are

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just demonstrations that our current

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understanding of physics may still have

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some things to learn another area where

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we are encountering puzzles and

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anomalies is consciousness of course

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quantum physics was supposed to be based

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on the idea that the consciousness

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causes wavefunction collapse that's

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already a key that consciousness does

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affect physics but mainstream physics

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has kind of neglected doing research on

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that for the last hundred years so now

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we're coming to a time where

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consciousness effects are so strong we

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can see the effects in the lab measure

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them of the pair lab a global

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consciousness project as Roger Nelson

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talked before Dean Raiden's work all of

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these show that consciousness can have

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measurable effects on physics they don't

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weaken with distance the parallel

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cumulative odds against chance are now

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running trillions to one which says

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enough examples to run and yet our

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physics still cannot explain them Bob

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Jones wonderful conclusion from some of

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this data is all forces known to physics

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like gravity for example diminish with

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distance and no forces in physics

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operate freely across time like this

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it's as if consciousness is somehow able

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to direct its influence directly across

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space and time

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and understanding is certainly I agree

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poses a challenge to science we also see

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anomalous long-range effects with

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healers and Iman's was talking about

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that a little bit in the previous talk

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when you go to trained healers who have

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spent maybe a lifetime doing this such

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effects can be dramatic and striking one

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of the most famous is dr. Jung shin of

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China a chi gong master also a medical

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doctor during a a chi projection lecture

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where he's teaching people how he does

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his projection of Chi physics our

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students are in China at the Institute

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the room which is used in particle

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experiments normally but they found that

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they were able to detect effects from

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the blue line at about his waist level

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background level of count rate that they

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were getting with lithium fluoride

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detectors when he projected with his

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hands empty force basically sending chi

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in different directions according to him

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20 when when he will attempt to do the

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same thing influencing water you get

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water which shows up on Raman spectra

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the bottom curve here shows what the

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spectrum looks like after 2 hours and

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of the Raman spectra for that frequency

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range but for shorter times the top

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curve is 30 minutes you get huge

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spectrum and these effects don't really

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depend on distance you can do this from

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thousands of miles away as well as well

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as in the next room chi gong effects

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radioactive decay rate with another

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thing that's a surprise to physicists

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different types of detectors and they

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found that the same 1,900 kilometers

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he was also able to either increase or

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using his cheap dr. joy Jones University

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of California Irvine as you probably

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know has been doing studies of pranic

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healing and one more form of energy

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projection or energy healing and finds

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that if you if you expose of cell

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cultures to high doses of gamma

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radiation he just stood so about half of

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them died in 24 hours so the left bar

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right bars are all for different

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conditions you descend pranic healing

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which is lucky before the exposure to

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gamma or after exposure or both and each

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highest when it was next to the far

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right about 88% survival after 24 hours

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now there's a hundreds of experiments

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bothered and I thought this is fantastic

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healing data he was still bothered by

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what was missing one day it occurred

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here maybe it's Karma and I do it during

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the experiments he had his lab assistant

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phone in a contribution to a credit card

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contribution to a charity and with the

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intention that the good karma from that

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act would go to the to the cells and the

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survival went rate went to 96% and for

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100 trials remain there so we have the

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karma so the point is that these long

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results if the practitioners are

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themselves very powerful very strong

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very well trained another chi gong

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master uh fixing Li that uh that I know

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cultures were cancer cells set up an

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incubator in Penn State Hershey the

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cancer cells when left alone they're

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petri dish in the same incubator the

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jigging Li was not trying to affect the

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other two were petri dishes he was asked

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to attempt to affect by killing the

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cancer cells 2,000 miles away cancer

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cells in Pennsylvania he is in

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California and you can see the growth

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curves turn over and they went back to

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zero after a while so he showed

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demonstration of the ability to aim his

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energy very precisely from thousands of

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both of these types of phenomena

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anomalies in the space-time metric such

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unique kind of energy it's been called

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ancient traditions it's been overlooked

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yogi or a Qigong master starts just work

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of this energy in his body you may call

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unusual phenomena that's really the

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different sources

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basis where I pull together these

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commonality in terms of this force how

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does it behave in many different

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conditions it's a big book 7 or 20 pages

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most interesting areas I'll talk today

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very very briefly about is torsion which

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is a Russian name for this energy they

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discovered it in the hard sciences

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astrophysics they concluded Nikolai

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originated the idea this stuff exists

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one of their torsion scientists from the

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generators allow us not only to

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replicate all phenomena demonstrated by

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so-called psychics but they are also

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able to demonstrate the effects they

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were never demonstrated by any psychic

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in other words the Russians have

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concluded that torsion is the same thing

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as what we talk about a psychic energy

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psychic phenomena there were some big

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programs

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one scientist shot piranha talks about

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Applied Research he was doing in 91 that

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involved eight different scientific

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teams and 30 years of research

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coordinated in his effort there are a

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variety of different nearly dozens of

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different types of anomalies in physics

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which have been observed over the years

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that appear to be explainable by torsion

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they have been internet attacks recently

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too some of these

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scientists my interpretation is the

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Russians perhaps regret that this stuff

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became public and want to pull it back

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but that's up to anyone to make their

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own judgment as far as what's going on

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there there are enormous numbers of

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scientists and the real track record

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over decades that this stuff is real and

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has been receiving a lot of research

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the basic idea can be viewed in

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different ways one one way is to say

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that Einstein's equations really looked

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for described particles but did not

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focus much on the spin or the

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orientation of the particle when you

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include that you add additional terms to

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the equations there's a static form of

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torsion that occurs when an object is

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spinning the more important and more

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dynamic form of torsion occurs when

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spins flip or spins change direction

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it's a very common thing that happens

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all the time in electromagnetism when we

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create an e/m wave of photon the

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particle is changing its spin during

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part of that therefore

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torsion waves are created along with it

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so it was the time 1 thank you

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torrents are created sort of

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synchronously with the photons and that

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is essentially there there are a lot of

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experiments that have shown that during

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irreversible processes evaporation of

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acetone is 1 here it creates these

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torsion energies there's two forms one

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goes to the right one goes to the left

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one basically speeds up time it involves

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of the to have two different polarities

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of entropy involved with them and I'm

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gonna have to kind of skip over a lot of

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this really interesting stuff but let's

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see they have they have one acts as a

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repel repelling force while one acts as

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an attracting force so they seem to be a

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possible explanation for the nature of

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dark matter and dark energy and then cut

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quickly to the chase in the limited time

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available it's all in my book so if you

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are able interested in purchasing it

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this is explained at a much legibly more

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leisurely way

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but the bottom line is we have a

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biophoton feel in our bodies the DNA

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creates it is how the DNA in the body

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couples and creates a coherent field of

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magnetic energy photon energy in the

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body that guides the cell growth coupled

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to that is a torsion field every time

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there's a photon field inside the body

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there's a torsion field created outside

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the body this is a torsion field that

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really creates what we call the aura and

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it's also the connection between two

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people when remote healing is done it's

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really the interaction of the torsion

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field

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I guess I'm have to stop there before

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the hook comes out but anyway thank you

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Frank Karl you're up if you're yes

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Claude earlier amonst mentioned

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selection from a superposition might

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torsion fields be involved in that yes

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there's a model in the back of my book

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which basically proposes that when we

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are involved in doing long-range healing

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with someone where the thing about tours

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that makes it unusual it requires very

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little or no energy so it's different

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from photons

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it also can travel backwards in time as

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well as forwards in time and they

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actually had detection to show this is a

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real effect so if you go back to the

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Fineman wheeler model of physics where

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we can send waves forward into the

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future and also backwards it allows for

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two and three-dimensional holographic

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connections so there were references to

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earlier speakers about the holographic

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nature of some of these things to me

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torsion is the medium that makes that

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oh yeah near top he mentioned that

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mainstream science more or less ignores

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the role of consciousness in the

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collapse of the quantum wave function

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and I simply wanted to point out that

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actually The Situation's a good deal

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worse than that mainstream research on

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the quantum measurement problem has

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arrived at a consensus that they know

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what goes on in wavefunction collapse

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and it does not involve conscious

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observation in any way of course there's

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a great deal of dispute from various

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dissidents who disagree with the

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reasoning involved but we're very much

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in the minority I figure you should be

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aware of that when trying to argue with

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yeah thanks thanks for the update yep

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got the fork last night I was able to

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get hold of some of the Soviet work on

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torsion fields and had that analyzed

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through some of the groups in the

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Washington DC area unfortunately the

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information in the books was not really

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usable for the people that looked at it

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and it kind of gave it a thumbs down

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which is not too unexpected but I'm

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happy to see that there's been a body of

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knowledge since that time because

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intuitively it felt like this is a good

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direction to go in and it almost looks

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like to something behind how a

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holographic field is constructed in the

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concepts that we can develop so I

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hey there early on you may be a

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statement that consciousness effects are

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getting stronger do you have data to

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back that up or is that due to lab

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improvement and experimental design

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improvements that we were able to see

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them more well what I meant there is

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that we're I think a lot of it has come

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from access to some very powerful

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trained individuals that before we

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didn't see many papers about it was the

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most of the chi gong masters from China

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China has been publishing papers paper

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coming out of China studying these

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people and there are Ong Go masters have

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come to the US as well so we're getting

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access to some people who were just much

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stronger than you

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average off person off the street so

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okay yeah stores Union left-brain

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definition of Chi in a way in a way yeah

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it's the same thing as far as I'm

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concerned I think as we get to

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understand this stuff better we'll

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probably have finer gradations of

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wording but a lot of the confusion so

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far has been that because it's a

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relatively subtle force and and it's

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come out of different cultures different

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individuals and it manifests itself in

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different ways because it really does

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affect the space-time metric and

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therefore it affects almost every other

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physical process so it manifests as

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different types of them effects so well

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how white calls it Oregon and different

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people who discovered in different

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formats give it a different name but I

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think at the core it's the same thing I

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think so last question book was

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published thank you um quick question

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looking at the diagrams for the torsion

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field with the angular energy being

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generated it looks like something that

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would be relatively easy to measure or

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to observe or to at least predict is

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there so where is well in my book I talk

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about a lot of measurements okay it's

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several ways a magnitude weaker than the

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magnetic effects and it's often masked

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by thermal effects or other types of

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phenomena so typically the the

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experiments that are published involves

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some very careful elimination of other

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confusing or competing effects I think

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it's probably possible to develop

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devices that are directly to effect

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measure the spin flip but I don't have a

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model for that yes so I you know still